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Game #183

Aston Villa

Saturday, 7 October 1893

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Won

Last 5: 🟥 🟩 🟨 🟥 🟩

Division One

Nottingham Forest

Town Ground

Attendance: 12,000

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

Nottingham Forest

1-2

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Aston Villa

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🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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MATCH TIMELINE
Saturday, 7 October 1893

HT Nottingham Forest 0-0 Aston Villa
51’ Goal, 1-0, Jack Devey
75’ Goal, 2-0, Willie Groves
87’ Goal, 2-1, (Nottingham Forest)
FT Nottingham Forest 1-2 Aston Villa

Match Statistics

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Goal ⚽, Assist 🔥, Goal Conceded 🥅, Injury 🚑, Booking 🟨, Sending off 🟥, Comment 🗒️, ❗ Villa Chance,❗❗Huge Villa Chance, 💥 Opposition action, 🎥 VAR, 🆘 Referee error, ❌ Missed pen, disallowed goal, player retires from field of play, 🟢 Debut, 🔴 Final appearance, 🕒 Half time, Full time, 🔁 Substitution

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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ON THIS DAY
Saturday, 7 October 1893
Villa bounce back from defeat to Sheffield United with their fourth win of the campaign in eight games.

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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DEBUT APPEARANCES

FINAL APPEARANCES

Seasons | 🕒 Games | ✅ Starts (🔁 Subs) | ⚽ Goals | 🔥 Assists | 🇺 Unused | Player Number |

Aston Villa

League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: 🏆
Last Trophy: 1886–87

Nottingham Forest

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League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

FIXTURE HISTORY
Nottingham Forest
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Previous 5 vs. Forest: 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩

League 🕒 3 | 🟩 3 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 0 | ⚽ 8 | 🥅 5 |
FA Cup 🕒 2 | 🟩 2 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 0 | ⚽ 6 | 🥅 2 |
Away 🕒 3 | 🟩 3 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 0 | ⚽ 9 | 🥅 6 |

Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Goals Scored ⚽, Goals Conceded 🥅

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

FIXTURE DETAILS
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Season | 1893-94 |
Matchday | #8 |
League Match | #8 |
Manager Game | #157 |
Saturday, 7 October 1893

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🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

MATCH SUMMARY
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Manager: George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
FT Score | 2-1 |
FT Result | Won |
Last 5 Games | LWDLW |

Scorers
Timeline
On This Day
Trophies
Fixture
Manager
MANAGERIAL RECORD
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George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

🕒 157 | 🟩 79 🟨 22 🟥 56 | 1.65

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Points per Game

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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MATCH OFFICIALS

REFEREE PROFILE

VAR PROFILE (from 2021)

CARDS
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CARDS
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Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Notably poor performance 🆘, Cards 🟨 Booking, Cards 🟥 Sending off, Disallowed ❌ Goal disallowed, ⚽ Penalty for, 🥅 Penalty against, ❌ Penalty Disallowed

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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TEAM NEWS
TEAM STATS

Villa made two changes from the team heavily beaten by Sheffield United last time out with William Devey and Bob Chatt replaced by James Gillan and Charlie Hare.

Starting XI Average Age
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Oldest Player |
F Dennis Hodgetts | 29.88 |

Youngest Player |
D John Baird | 22.78 |

Referee

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

MANAGER

George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

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Aston Villa

GK Bill Dunning |
D John Baird |
CB Jimmy Cowan |
FB Jimmy Welford |
M Jack Reynolds |
M Willie Groves |
M James Gillan |
W Albert Woolley |
F Jack Devey |
F Dennis Hodgetts |
F Charlie Hare |

MANAGER

Harry Radford | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Nottingham Forest

Line Ups

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

SUBSTITUTES
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No Substitutions permitted in period

SUBSTITUTES

No Substitutions permitted in period

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Substitutes

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES
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No Substitutions permitted in period

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES
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No Substitutions permitted in period

Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

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🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

MATCHDAY SQUAD BIOGRAPHIES
STARTING XI
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GK Bill Dunning | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
SUBSTITUTES
Player
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UNUSED
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Games 🕒, Starts ✅, Substitute 🔁, Goals ⚽, Assists 🔥, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Conceded 🥅, Clean Sheets ⛔, Unused Substitute 🇺

Squad Bios

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

SQUAD STATS
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SQUAD STATS
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MATCHDAY SQUAD
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MATCHDAY SQUAD
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LEAGUE TABLE
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Tables & Programmes
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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME
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🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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MATCH QUOTES
"At times the forward play reminded one forcibly of the North End at their best"
Quotes

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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MATCH REPORTS

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*The Sporting Life*
Monday, 9 October 1893
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE FOREST V. ASTON VILLA. DEFEAT OF THE REDS. There was an enormous attendance on the Town Ground Nottingham on Saturday afternoon to witness the meeting of these clubs. Goose Fair was being celebrated and holiday-makers flocked to the scene of the contest their thousands. Roughly speaking, there would be about 14,000 spectators present. Forest left out Shaw and played Higgins, whilst Horace Pike partnered M’Innes on the left wing. The Villains had their full strength, and were seen, especially in the second half, to the best advantage, their combined passing and determined attacks in front goal being the theme of admiration. The weather, fortunately. was beautifully fine, and there was little or no wind to interfere with the progress the game. Forest kicked off and had certainly the best of the opening exchanges. Collins forcing their first corner off Dunning on the right. From the kick off the Villa goal keeper was called upon to fist out, and in the course of the scrimmage which followed, Stewart shot over the bar. About half-way through the visitors began to show the ascendancy, but although brilliant work was done by Reynolds and Cowan at half-back and Groves, Hodgetts, Woolley, and Devey, forwards, the whistle was sounded without either team having registered a point. Six minutes succeeding the crossover, Devey, kicked a fine goal, and a quarter of an hour before ceasing a second was contributed by Groves from the centre. M'lcnnes went in cent e for Forest, and once struck the right post violently, the ball from the rebound passing into the hands of the Villa goalkeeper, who forced it forward in a marvellous manner. The visitors constantly attacked, but were unable to get through Allsop. Three minutes before time the local forwards broke through. and M’lnnes and M'Cullum succeeded in registering a goal. Previously M’lnnes. with Higgins, had beaten Dunning, but the point was ruled off-side. Finally the visitors left the field the winners by two goals to one. --- *The Birmingham Daily Post* Monday 09 October 1893 SATURDAY’S FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION RULES. THE LEAGUE - DIVISION I NOTTS FOREST v. ASTON VILLA Twelve thousand spectators witnessed this match on the Town Ground at Nottingham. The visitors played superior football throughout, but the home defence was splendid in the first half, and try as they would Aston could not score. M’Innes once scored for the home team, but as he was palpably off-side the point was disallowed, and at the interval neither side had scored. On resuming, the visitors had a little more luck, and as the result of a grand exhibition of football they put on a couple of points. The Forest made desperate attempts to equalise, but they could only manage 1 goal, and retired defeated - by 2 goals to 1. --- *The Birmingham Daily Post* Monday 09 October 1893 NOTES ON SPORT. The Villa were in fine form at Nottingham and thoroughly deserved their victory. They were the better team at all points, and the score of two goals to one scarcely represents the difference between the two elevens. Even the Nottingham spectators said that the better side had won, and many declared that the Villa on the play were three or four goals superior to their opponents. Had the shooting been equal to the play In the field the Villa would have won handsomely. At times the forward play reminded one forcibly of the North End at their best, whilst the half-backs worked magnificently and supported the front rank in a manner that left nothing to be desired. It is to be hoped that the improvement in this respect will be maintained. The backs were very safe, whilst Dunning did what he had to do admirably. The Forest whilst scarcely so good as the Villa in front, were distinctly inferior in the half-back line, and in the second half this fault was most manifest. The three half-backs were always playing right on the backs. and consequently the rushes of their forwards were not supported and were easily stopped by the Villa defenders. The Forest half-backs were, in fact, stamped with the fault that has been too frequently seen in the Villa players occupying the same positions. There was little to choose between the Villa forwards, for they all worked splendidly. Hare, who took Athersmith’s position on the extreme right, was very useful to his side. Hodgetts played in quite his old form, whilst the same remark applies to John Devey. Groves was a brilliant centre, and Woolley played a dashing game on the wing. Reynolds, perhaps, was the most brilliant of the three half-backs, though it is questionable if he was of more real service to his side than Cowan, who played with his usual skill and determination. Gillan made a successful reappearance in the team, and is entitled to his position on Saturday’s play. Baird kicked and tackled faultlessly, while Welford was in great form. The Forest backs Ritchie and Scott were nearly as safe as those of the Villa, and the latter was cheered time after time for his well-timed kicking. McInnes and Higgins were the pick of the Forest forwards, and they both worked desperately hard to retrieve the fortunes of their side. The Villa victory is all the more pleasing in view of their two previous performances, and if the same form is maintained they should have no difficulty in taking two points out of Darwen on Saturday.
Reports

🟩 7 Oct 1893, Villa 2-1 Forest, New Town Ground

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