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Game #185

Aston Villa

Monday, 16 October 1893

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Drew

Last 5: 🟨 🟥 🟩 🟨 🟨

Division One

Stoke

Victoria Ground

Attendance: 4,000

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

Stoke

3-3

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Aston Villa

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🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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MATCH TIMELINE
Monday, 16 October 1893

[Exact timings not recorded]
25’ Goal, 0-1, (Stoke)
26’ Goal, 1-1, Own Goal, Clare
29’ Goal, 2-1, Charlie Athersmith, Assist by Albert Woolley
40’ Goal, 2-2, (Stoke)
HT Stoke 2-2 Aston Villa
75’ Goal, 3-2, Charlie Athersmith,
87’ Goal, 3-3, (Stoke)
FT Stoke 3-3 Aston Villa

Match Statistics

Not recorded

Goal ⚽, Assist 🔥, Goal Conceded 🥅, Injury 🚑, Booking 🟨, Sending off 🟥, Comment 🗒️, ❗ Villa Chance,❗❗Huge Villa Chance, 💥 Opposition action, 🎥 VAR, 🆘 Referee error, ❌ Missed pen, disallowed goal, player retires from field of play, 🟢 Debut, 🔴 Final appearance, 🕒 Half time, Full time, 🔁 Substitution

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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ON THIS DAY
Monday, 16 October 1893
Villa drew for the second game in succession to leave them with four wins in 10 games and no clean sheets.

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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DEBUT APPEARANCES

FINAL APPEARANCES

Seasons | 🕒 Games | ✅ Starts (🔁 Subs) | ⚽ Goals | 🔥 Assists | 🇺 Unused | Player Number |

Aston Villa

League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: 🏆
Last Trophy: 1886–87

Stoke

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League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: ❌

FIXTURE HISTORY
Stoke
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Previous 5 vs. Stoke: | 🟩 | 🟩 | 🟩 | 🟩 | 🟩 |

Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Goals Scored ⚽, Goals Conceded 🥅

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

FIXTURE DETAILS
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Season | 1893-94 |
Matchday | #10 |
League Match | #10 |
Manager Game | #159 |
Monday, 16 October 1893

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🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

MATCH SUMMARY
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Manager: George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | Glasgow, 1886-1926 led Management Committee
Referee: Jeffries | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Derby
FT Score | 3-3 |
FT Result | Drew |
Last 5 Games | DLWDD |

Scorers
Timeline
On This Day
Trophies
Fixture
Manager
MANAGERIAL RECORD
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George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

🕒 159 | 🟩 79 🟨 24 🟥 56 | 1.64

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Points per Game

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Jeffries | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Derby, 1893-

VAR PROFILE (from 2021)

CARDS
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None

CARDS
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None

Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Notably poor performance 🆘, Cards 🟨 Booking, Cards 🟥 Sending off, Disallowed ❌ Goal disallowed, ⚽ Penalty for, 🥅 Penalty against, ❌ Penalty Disallowed

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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TEAM NEWS
TEAM STATS

Three changes for Villa from the team that drew with bottom club Darwen. John Baird misses out with Jim Elliott returning for the first time in 6 games, James Gillan drops out, Bob Chatt comes in, Willie Groves misses the game as Charlie Hare is recalled.

Starting XI Average Age
| 25.08 |

Oldest Player |
F Dennis Hodgetts | 29.90 |

Youngest Player |
W Charlie Athersmith | 21.45 |

Referee

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

MANAGER

George Ramsay | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 | 1886-1926

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Aston Villa

GK Bill Dunning |
FB Jim Elliott |
CB Jimmy Cowan |
FB Jimmy Welford |
M Jack Reynolds |
W Albert Woolley |
W Charlie Athersmith |
F Jack Devey |
F Dennis Hodgetts |
F Bob Chatt |
F Charlie Hare |

MANAGER

Arthur Reeves | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Stoke

Line Ups

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

SUBSTITUTES
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No Substitutions permitted in period

SUBSTITUTES

No Substitutions Permitted in Period

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Substitutes

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES
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No Substitutions permitted in period

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES
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No Substitutions Permitted in Period

Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

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🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

MATCHDAY SQUAD BIOGRAPHIES
STARTING XI
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GK Bill Dunning | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
SUBSTITUTES
Player
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UNUSED
Player
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Games 🕒, Starts ✅, Substitute 🔁, Goals ⚽, Assists 🔥, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Conceded 🥅, Clean Sheets ⛔, Unused Substitute 🇺

Squad Bios

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

SQUAD STATS
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SQUAD STATS
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🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

MATCHDAY SQUAD
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MATCHDAY SQUAD
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Not Recorded

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LEAGUE TABLE
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Tables & Programmes
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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME
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🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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MATCH QUOTES
"For some little time after this the bulk of the play was in the Stoke territory, the home team being compelled to act on the defensive."
Quotes

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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MATCH REPORTS

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*The Birmingham Daily Post*
Tuesday, 17 October 1893
YESTERDAY’S FOOTBALL. THE LEAGUE.- DIVISION I. STOKE v. ASTON VILLA For the second time this season these old rivals played off a fixture in the first division of the League competition, the contest taking place on the Victoria Athletic Ground, Stoke-on-Trent in the presence of about 5,000 spectators. Although on the last occasion Stoke suffered a decided defeat to the tune of five goals, much interest was evinced in the present encounter, and as both teams might be regarded as fairly representative, the anticipation that the game would be a good one was fully realised. The following were the teams :- Stoke: Evans, goal; Clare, Dickson, backs; Christie, Procter, Brodie, half-backs; Naughton, J.E. Evans, Robertson. Schofield, McReddie, forwards. Aston Villa: Dunning, goal; Elliott, Welford, backs; Reynolds, Cowan, Chatt, half-backs; Athersmith, Hare, Devey, Woolley, Hodgetts, forwards. Referee Mr. Jeffries, Derby. Three minutes after the advertised time Stoke, having lost the toss, kicked off, and at once taking the ball towards the Villa goal compelled Elliott to concede a corner. This yielded nothing, but Stoke kept the sphere in the vicinity of the visitors’ goal, and a dangerous attack was frustrated by the Villa custodian. Schofield on the home out-side left, made a capital run, but his centre was very weak. The visitors now bore down on the home goal in a determined manner, a run by Hodgetts and Woolley proving very threatening. Evans, the Stoke custodian, fisted out, and a second shot by Hare was similarly treated, after which Athersmith followed up by hitting the cross-bar. For some little time after this the bulk of the play was in the Stoke territory, the home team being compelled to act on the defensive. At the end of about twenty minutes’ play Reynolds was called upon by the referee to change his jersey, in consequence of his colours being somewhat similar to those worn by Stoke. After a slight interval, Schofield again distinguished himself on the left wing, but he once more misjudged his centre. The Villa forwards quickly ran the ball down the ground, but Woolley was stopped by Clare, who returned the leather to mid-field, and his forwards taking possession rushed it up towards the Villa goal. Evans having got it under control made a grand shot which leaned it into the net, the first point thus being obtained by Stoke after twenty-five minutes play. Directly after the ball had been once more set in motion the Villa took it into the home quarters; Athersmith passed to Hare, and the latter put it on to Clare, with the result that the Stoke back sent it through his own goal, the scores thereby being equalised. Immediately afterwards the Villa again attacked, and within a few minutes of their first success Athersmith gave them the lead from a centre by Woolley. The game continued to be keenly contested, the ball travelling quickly from end to end of the ground. About five minutes before the interval the score was once more equalised, Robertson, out of a scrimmage in front of the Villa goal, putting the ball beneath the crossbar. At half-time the score was 2 goals each. On play being resumed the Stoke forwards got possession of the ball, but were not allowed to keep it long. Dickson stopped a dangerous onslaught and then Elliott averted a dangerous attack by Schofield. The game became very exciting, both teams fighting hard for supremacy. Clare luckily intercepted a shot from the Villa right wing, as did Dickson directly afterwards. The pressure was then relieved, and Schofield had a chance from the left wing, but he shot the ball high over the crossbar, a manoeuvre which was repeated by Evans a minute later. The Villa then gradually worked the ball up towards the Stoke goal, when Athersmith also shot it too high from the right. Stoke next got a corner, end a goal very nearly resulted, Dunning just getting the ball away in the nick of time. The Villa followed by obtaining a corner, but it proved unproductive, Welford now got winded, but not seriously, and after a few minutes’ delay the game was resumed, and for a time continued to be of a very even character. Clare averted the downfall of the Stoke goal when the Villa appeared certain to score, and a second attack by the latter was frustrated by Dickson heading the ball away out of the mouth of the goal. The visitors, however, continued to press very hard, and out of a hot scrimmage in front of goal the ball was headed through once more riveting the Villa the lead. Devey next shot outside by a few inches, and Schofield on the other side finished up a good run by putting the ball over the crossbar. The Villa received a corner, but made nothing of it, and directly afterwards from a grand run Robertson scored for Stoke, and once more placed the game on an equal footing. Stoke were still pressing when the final whistle sounded, and a capital game ended in a draw of 3 goals each. --- *Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser* Tuesday 17 October 1893 Stoke v. Aston Villa. Played at Stoke, before 4,000 spectators, and in summer like weather. Both sides were fairly representative. Playing with the sun in their faces Stoke were the first to press, and Evans scored in 25 minutes. Directly afterwards, attempting to clear from Athersmith, Clare put through his own goal. Athersmith added a second for the Villa two minutes later, and Robertson again equalised. Half-time score: Stoke, two goals; Aston Villa, two goals. Aston Villa opened the second half strongly, but could not score until 15 minutes from the close, when Athersmith put them ahead, Robertson equalised three minutes from the close. Final Score: Aston Villa 3 Stoke 3
Reports

🟨 16 Oct 1893, Villa 3-3 Stoke, Victoria Ground

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