Game #3818
Aston Villa
Wednesday, 5 September 1984


Lost
11th (-6)
Last 5: 🟥 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥
Division One
Nottingham Forest
Villa Park
Attendance: 17,730
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Aston Villa
0-5

Nottingham Forest

Assist(s) | None
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MATCH TIMELINE
Wednesday, 5 September 1984
🥅 | 33’ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Ian Bowyer
🕒 | HT Aston Villa 0-1 Nottingham Forest
🥅 | 60’ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), Trevor Christie
🥅 | 68’ Goal, 0-3, (Nottingham Forest), Trevor Christie
🔁 | 72' Sub off, Dennis Mortimer, Sub on, Paul Rideout
🥅 | 78’ Goal, 0-4, (Nottingham Forest), Steve Hodge
🥅 | 88’ Goal, 0-5, (Nottingham Forest), Trevor Christie
🕒 | FT Aston Villa 0-5 Nottingham Forest
🟨 | Booking, Allan Evans, Dissent
🟨 | Booking, Gary Williams, Foul
🟨 | Booking, Peter Withe, Dissent
Match Statistics
Not recorded
Goal ⚽, Assist 🔥, Goal Conceded 🥅, Injury 🚑, Booking 🟨, Sending off 🟥, Comment 🗒️, ❗ Villa Chance,❗❗Huge Villa Chance, 💥 Opposition action, 🎥 VAR, 🆘 Referee error, ❌ Missed pen, disallowed goal, player retires from field of play, 🟢 Debut, 🔴 Final appearance, 🕒 Half time, Full time, 🔁 Substitution
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ON THIS DAY
Wednesday, 5 September 1984
Fans worst fears are realised as the rot sets in quickly under Graham Turner 🏴 who presides over one of the worst ever performances seen at Villa Park.
Villa had now conceded eight without reply in two games under Turner as they slump to 11th in the early table.
Meanwhile, Herbert Douglas Ellis’ desecration of the squad continues.
Des Bremner 🏴 32 makes his 🕒 227th & final appearance in a Villa shirt (222 Starts) before being sold to of all places Birmingham City later this month for a paltry fee of £25,000. Bremner's departure comes just two games after he was seen to be back to his best form and was moved on by Ellis, despite, and maybe because of the influence he held at Villa.
Bremner 🏴 was the seventh member of the fourteen man League title winning squad that had now been forced out of the club and left with a record of 🟩 W104 🟨 D52 🟥 L71, ⚽ 10 Goals and 🔥 10 Assists.
Villa under Ellis had now discarded Kenny Swain 🏴, Ken McNaught 🏴, Jimmy Rimmer 🏴, David Geddis 🏴, Tony Morley 🏴, Eamonn Deacy and Bremner 🏴.
Gordon Cowans 🏴 suffers his 🟥 100th defeat in a Villa shirt on his 🕒 327th appearance (312 Starts) to make it 🟩 W152 🟨 D75 🟥 L100, ⚽ 50 Goals and 🔥 50 Assists at a goal involvement rate of one for every 3.27 games he has played so far in his Villa career.
Right Back Gary Williams 🏴 makes his 🕒 200th appearance in a Villa shirt (195 Starts).
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DEBUT APPEARANCES
None
FINAL APPEARANCES
🔴 M Des Bremner | 🏴 | 1979-84 🕒 227 | ✅ 222 🔁 (5) | ⚽ 10 | 🔥 10 | 🇺 7 | #606 |
Seasons | 🕒 Games | ✅ Starts (🔁 Subs) | ⚽ Goals | 🔥 Assists | 🇺 Unused | Player Number |
Aston Villa
European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82
Nottingham Forest


European Cup / Champions League: 🏆🏆
League Champions: 🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1979-80
FIXTURE HISTORY
Nottingham Forest


Previous 5 vs. Forest: 🟨 🟩 🟩 🟨 🟩
League 🕒 85 | 🟩 43 | 🟨 17 | 🟥 25 | ⚽ 159 | 🥅 119 |
FA Cup 🕒 9 | 🟩 4 | 🟨 1 | 🟥 4 | ⚽ 16 | 🥅 12 |
League Cup 🕒 2 | 🟩 1 | 🟨 0 | 🟥 1 | ⚽ 3 | 🥅 4 |
Home 🕒 46 | 🟩 31 | 🟨 7 | 🟥 8 | ⚽ 105 | 🥅 46 |
Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Goals Scored ⚽, Goals Conceded 🥅
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FIXTURE DETAILS


Season | 1984-85 |
Matchday | #4 |
League Match | #4 |
Manager Game | #4 |
Wednesday, 5 September 1984
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MATCH SUMMARY


Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Joe Worrall | 🏴 | Warrington, 1977-1995
HT Score: 🟥 0-1
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-5
Last 5: 🟥 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥
MANAGERIAL RECORD

Graham Turner | 🏴 | 1984-1986
🕒 4 | 🟩 | 2 🟨 | 0 🟥 2 | 1.50
Villa Career Form:
Top 8
Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Points per Game
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MATCH OFFICIALS
Referee: Joe Worrall | 🏴 | Warrington, 1977-1995
VAR PROFILE (from 2021)
CARDS

🟨 Allan Evans, Dissent
🟨 Gary Williams, Foul
🟨 Peter Withe, Dissent
CARDS

🟨
Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Notably poor performance 🆘, Cards 🟨 Booking, Cards 🟥 Sending off, Disallowed ❌ Goal disallowed, ⚽ Penalty for, 🥅 Penalty against, ❌ Penalty Disallowed
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TEAM NEWS
TEAM STATS
Graham Turner names an unchanged line up.
Starting XI Average Age
| 27.18 |
Oldest Player |
CF Peter Withe | 🏴 | 33.04 |
Youngest Player |
W Mark Walters | 🏴 | 20.27 |
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MANAGER
Graham Turner | 🏴 | 1984-1986

Aston Villa
GK Mervyn Day | 🏴 |
CB Allan Evans | 🏴 |
CB Steve Foster | 🏴 |
RB Gary Williams | 🏴 |
M Colin Gibson | 🏴 |
M Des Bremner | 🏴 | 🔴 |
M Gordon Cowans | 🏴 |
M Steve McMahon | 🏴 |
M Dennis Mortimer | 🏴 | 🔁 |
W Mark Walters | 🏴 |
CF Peter Withe | 🏴 |
MANAGER
Brian Clough | 🏴 |

Nottingham Forest
GK Steve Sutton | 🏴 |
CB Paul Hart | 🏴 |
CB Chris Fairclough | 🏴 | 🟨 |
D Bryn Gunn | 🏴 | 🔁 |
RB Kenny Swain (ex) | 🏴 |
M Johnny Metgod | 🇳🇱 |
M Steve Hodge | 🏴 | ⚽ |
M Ian Bowyer | 🏴 | ⚽ |
W Steve Wigley | 🏴 |
CF Trevor Christie | 🏴 | ⚽ | ⚽ | ⚽ |
CF Peter Davenport | 🏴 |
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SUBSTITUTES

🔁 | CF Paul Rideout | 🏴 | for M Dennis Mortimer | 🏴 | 72' |
SUBSTITUTES
🔁 | D Bryn Gunn | 🏴 | (M Gary Mills | 🏴 |)

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UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

None
UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

None
Player Positions:
GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half
M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward
Match Symbols:
⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution
🟨 | Booking
🟥 | Sending off
🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

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MATCHDAY SQUAD BIOGRAPHIES
STARTING XI
SUBSTITUTES
Player | 🕒 | 🔁 | ⚽ | 🔥 | 🟩 | 🟨 | 🟥 | 🥅 | ⛔ | Yellow | Red |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
CF Paul Rideout | 🏴 | | 32 | 6 | 7 | 4 | 12 | 7 | 13 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
UNUSED
Player | 🇺 |
---|---|
Games 🕒, Starts ✅, Substitute 🔁, Goals ⚽, Assists 🔥, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Conceded 🥅, Clean Sheets ⛔, Unused Substitute 🇺
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SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 11/11
Squad:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 12/12
SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 10/11
Squad:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 11/12
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MATCHDAY SQUAD

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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UNAVAILABLE

Not recorded
UNAVAILABLE

Not Recorded
LEAGUE TABLE



MATCHDAY PROGRAMME



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MATCH QUOTES
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MATCH REPORTS
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