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Game #3827

Aston Villa

Saturday, 20 October 1984

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Drew

13th (-1)

Last 5: 🟥 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟨

Division One

Norwich City

Villa Park

Attendance: 14,149

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

Aston Villa

2-2

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Norwich City

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Assist(s) | Didier Six | 17' | Brendan Ormsby | 69' |

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

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MATCH TIMELINE

Saturday, 20 October 1984

🥅 | 11’ Goal, 0-1, (Norwich City), John Deehan
⚽ | 17’ Goal, 1-1, Peter Withe, Assist by Didier Six
🥅 | 45’ Goal, 1-2, (Norwich City), Louie Donawa
🕒 | HT Aston Villa 1-2 Norwich City
⚽ | 69' Goal, 2-2, Peter Withe, Assist by Brendan Ormsby
🔁 | 70' Sub off, Steve McMahon, Sub on, Dennis Mortimer 🔴
🕒 | FT Aston Villa 2-2 Norwich City

Match Statistics

Not recorded

Goal ⚽, Assist 🔥, Goal Conceded 🥅, Injury 🚑, Booking 🟨, Sending off 🟥, Comment 🗒️, ❗ Villa Chance,❗❗Huge Villa Chance, 💥 Opposition action, 🎥 VAR, 🆘 Referee error, ❌ Missed pen, disallowed goal, player retires from field of play, 🟢 Debut, 🔴 Final appearance, 🕒 Half time, Full time, 🔁 Substitution

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

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ON THIS DAY

Saturday, 20 October 1984

  • Peter Withe’s 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 brace saves Villa from defeat to 17th placed Norwich as Villa make it 🟩 four wins in 🕒 eleven League games, whilst 🟥 losing five. 

  • Having ⚽ scored four and 🔥 made five goals in his 🕒 last four games there are welcome rumours that Withe 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 is about to be offered a new contract to keep him at the club for another three years.

  • Midfielder Dennis Mortimer 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 makes his first appearance as a 🔁 substitute after 405 starts in what proves to be his fianl game for the club whom he lead to League and European Cup glory.

  • Graham Turner 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 prematurely calls time on the great man’s Villa career before moving him on to Brighton & Hove Albion in August 1985 on a free transfer.

  • Mortimer 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 became the eighth member of the fourteen man League title winning squad that had now been sold under the Herbert Douglas Ellis regime. Mortimer's departure followed those of Kenny Swain 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, Ken McNaught 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿, Jimmy Rimmer 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, David Geddis 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, Tony Morley 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿, Eamonn Deacy 🇮🇪 and Des Bremner 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. 

  • Mortimer 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 left with a record of 🟩 W185 🟨 D103 🟥 L118, ⚽ 36 Goals and 🔥73 Assists.

  • Far less positive things could be said about Turner who whether unable, unwilling or both to keep the old guard, is now also having troubles with even the newest of recruits.

  • Centre back Steve Foster 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 27 makes just his 17th and final appearance in a Villa shirt before moving on to Luton Town in November for £70,000 just six months after Villa had paid Brighton & Hove Albion £150,000 for his services. 

  • Foster experienced repeated rows with a manager who had been in post for just two months and who was already patently out of his depth and taking Villa backwards. Foster was a relieved man to make a quick exit with a record of 🟩 W8 🟨 D2 🟥 L7 and ⚽ 3 goals.

  • Villa then had lost regulars from their midfield and defence as yet more discontent bubbled behind the scenes; the Turner / Ellis axis, had been in place for less than 10 weeks and the wonton destruction had hardly even begun.

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

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DEBUT APPEARANCES

None

FINAL APPEARANCES

🔴 M Dennis Mortimer | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1975-84 🕒 406 | ✅ 405 🔁 (1) | ⚽ 36 | 🔥 73 | 🇺 0 | #580 |
🔴 CB Steve Foster | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1984 🕒 17 | ✅ 17 🔁 (0) | ⚽ 3 | 🔥 0 | 🇺 0 | #626 |

Seasons | 🕒 Games | ✅ Starts (🔁 Subs) | ⚽ Goals | 🔥 Assists | 🇺 Unused | Player Number |

Aston Villa

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82

Norwich City

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European Cup / Champions League: ❌
League Champions: ❌
FA Cup Winners: ❌
League Cup Winners: 🏆
Last Trophy: 1961–62

FIXTURE HISTORY

Norwich City

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Previous 5 vs. Norwich: 🟩 🟨 🟥 🟩 🟥

Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Goals Scored ⚽, Goals Conceded 🥅

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

FIXTURE DETAILS

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Season | 1984-85 |
Matchday | #13 |
League Match | #11 |
Manager Game | #13 |
Saturday, 20 October 1984

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🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

MATCH SUMMARY

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Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Lester Shapter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Torquay, 1974-1992
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟥 1-2
FT Result: 🟨 Drew
FT Score: 🟨 2-2
Last 5: 🟥 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟨

Scorers
Timeline
On This Day
Trophies
Fixture
Manager

MANAGERIAL RECORD

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Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1984-1986

🕒 13 | 🟩 | 6 🟨 | 2 🟥 5 | 1.54

Villa Career Form:

Top 8

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1984-1986

Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Points per Game

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

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MATCH OFFICIALS

Referee: Lester Shapter | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Torquay, 1974-1992
Matches Officiated: 7
🟩 : 4
🟨 : 1
🟥 : 2
🆘 : 2
Previous 5: 🟥 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟥
Last Match: 🟥 18 April 1984, Villa 1-2 Tottenham, White Hart Lane.
Cards: None

VAR PROFILE (from 2021)

CARDS

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CARDS

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Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Notably poor performance 🆘, Cards 🟨 Booking, Cards 🟥 Sending off, Disallowed ❌ Goal disallowed, ⚽ Penalty for, 🥅 Penalty against, ❌ Penalty Disallowed

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

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TEAM NEWS

TEAM STATS

Allan Evans and Colin Gibson replace Tony Dorigo and Steve Foster.

Starting XI Average Age
| 25.87 |

Oldest Player |
CF Peter Withe | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 33.16 |

Youngest Player |
CF Paul Rideout | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 20.20 |

Referee

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

MANAGER

Graham Turner | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1984-1986

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Aston Villa

GK Mervyn Day | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB Gary Williams | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Brendan Ormsby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔥 |
CB Steve Foster | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔴 |
M Colin Gibson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Gordon Cowans | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Steve McMahon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |
M Paul Birch | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Didier Six | 🇫🇷 | 🔥 |
CF Peter Withe | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | ⚽ |
CF Paul Rideout | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

MANAGER

Ken Brown | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Norwich City

GK Chris Woods | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
RB Paul Haylock | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Dave Watson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Steve Bruce | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Greg Downs | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M John Devine | 🇮🇪 |
M Louie Donowa | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
M Peter Mendham | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Asa Hartford | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
CF John Deehan (ex) | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ |
CF Mick Channon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Line Ups

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

SUBSTITUTES

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🔁 | M Dennis Mortimer | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | for M Steve McMahon | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 70' |

SUBSTITUTES

No Substitutions Made

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Substitutes

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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None

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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F Mark Farrington | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

Squad Bios

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 10/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/12

SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 10/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 11/12

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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MATCHDAY SQUAD

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LEAGUE TABLE

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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME

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Tables & Programmes

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MATCH QUOTES

Quotes

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

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MATCH REPORTS

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Reports

🟨 20 Oct 1984, Villa 2-2 Norwich, Villa Park

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