Game #3861
Aston Villa
Saturday, 17 August 1985


Lost
21st
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥
Division One
Manchester United
Old Trafford
Attendance: 49,743
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
Manchester United
4-0

Aston Villa

Assist(s) | None
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford


MATCH TIMELINE
Saturday, 17 August 1985
🔁 | 35' Sub off, Colin Gibson, Sub on, Darren Bradley
🕒 | HT Manchester United 0-0 Aston Villa
🥅 | 47’ Goal, 0-1, (Manchester United) , Norman Whiteside
🥅 | 49’ Goal, 0-2, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 74’ Goal, 0-3, (Manchester United), Mark Hughes
🥅 | 82' Goal, 0-4, (Manchester United), Jesper Olsen
🕒 | FT Manchester United 4-0 Aston Villa
Match Statistics
Not recorded
Goal ⚽, Assist 🔥, Goal Conceded 🥅, Injury 🚑, Booking 🟨, Sending off 🟥, Comment 🗒️, ❗ Villa Chance,❗❗Huge Villa Chance, 💥 Opposition action, 🎥 VAR, 🆘 Referee error, ❌ Missed pen, disallowed goal, player retires from field of play, 🟢 Debut, 🔴 Final appearance, 🕒 Half time, Full time, 🔁 Substitution
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford

ON THIS DAY
Saturday, 17 August 1985
Villa open the season with a 🟥 heavy defeat under Graham Turner 🏴 as old boy John Gidman 🏴 does the damage, creating two goals for United in their stroll.
Graham Turner’s 🏴 Villa had now 🟥 lost three successive games conceding six, and scoring once.
Further entrenching the bizarre and destructive transfer policy under Chairman Herbert Doug Eliis, centre forward Andy Gray 🏴 makes his first appearance for Villa aged 29 since rejoining from Everton in July 1985 for a fee of £150,000.
Gray 🏴 had been Villa’s leading scorer under Ellis’ previous tenure as Chairman before being sold in 1979.
Confusingly Gray’s 🏴 age, 29, was past that of a series of league and European Cup winning players who had been sold by Ellis (Ken McNaught 🏴, 28, David Geddis 🏴, 25, Tony Morley 🏴, 29, Eamonn Deacy 🇮🇪 25, and Gordon Cowans 🏴, 26) and was considerably older than Villa’s now departed leading scorer for the previous season Rideout 🏴 (20).
As a result, despite claims to the contrary, there was little evidence that it was the restructuring of an “ageing” squad that caused those players to be sold under Herbert Douglas Ellis’ chairmanship.
Forward Gary Shaw 🏴 makes his first appearance for Villa since February 1984 due to injury.
Centre back Brendan Ormsby 🏴 makes his 🕒 125th appearance in a Villa shirt (121 Starts)
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford

DEBUT APPEARANCES
None
FINAL APPEARANCES
None
Seasons | 🕒 Games | ✅ Starts (🔁 Subs) | ⚽ Goals | 🔥 Assists | 🇺 Unused | Player Number |
Aston Villa
European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82
Manchester United


European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆
League Cup Winners: ❌
Last Trophy: 1984-85
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
FIXTURE DETAILS


Season | 1985-86 |
Matchday | #1 |
League Match | #1 |
Manager Game | #47 |
Saturday, 17 August 1985
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🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
MATCH SUMMARY


Manager: Graham Turner | 🏴 | Ellesmere Port, 1984-1986
Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴 | Carlisle, 1974-1985
Kick off: 3.00pm
HT Score: 🟨 0-0
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-4
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟥 🟥 🟥
MANAGERIAL RECORD

Graham Turner | 🏴 | 1984-1986
🕒 47 | 🟩 | 17 🟨 | 11 🟥 19 | 1.32
Villa Career Form:
Mid Table
Games 🕒, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Points per Game
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford

MATCH OFFICIALS
Referee: Colin Seel | 🏴 | Carlisle, 1974-1985
VAR PROFILE (from 2021)
CARDS

None
CARDS

None
Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Notably poor performance 🆘, Cards 🟨 Booking, Cards 🟥 Sending off, Disallowed ❌ Goal disallowed, ⚽ Penalty for, 🥅 Penalty against, ❌ Penalty Disallowed
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford

TEAM NEWS
TEAM STATS
Graham Turner handed the returning Andy Gray his first start.
Starting XI Average Age
| 24.73 |
Oldest Player |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴 | 29.73 |
Youngest Player |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴 | 19.64 |
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
MANAGER
Graham Turner | 🏴 | 1984-1986

Aston Villa
GK Nigel Spink | 🏴 |
LB Tony Dorigo | 🏴 |
CB Allan Evans | 🏴 |
CB Brendan Ormsby | 🏴 |
RB Gary Williams | 🏴 |
M Colin Gibson | 🏴 | 🔁 |
M Paul Birch | 🏴 |
M Steve McMahon | 🏴 |
W Mark Walters | 🏴 |
F Gary Shaw | 🏴 |
CF Andy Gray | 🏴 |
MANAGER
Ron Atkinson | 🏴 | (ft)

Manchester United
GK Gary Bailey | 🏴 |
RB John Gidman (ex) | 🏴 |
CB Paul McGrath | 🇮🇪 |
CB Graeme Hogg | 🏴 |
LB Arthur Albiston | 🏴 |
M Remi Moses | 🏴 | 🔁 |
M Jesper Olsen | 🇩🇰 | ⚽ |
M Bryan Robson | 🏴 |
W Norman Whiteside | 🇬🇧 | ⚽ |
CF Frank Stapleton | 🇮🇪 |
CF Mark Hughes | 🏴 | ⚽ | ⚽ |
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
SUBSTITUTES

🔁 | M Darren Bradley | 🏴 | for M Colin Gibson | 🏴 | 35' |
SUBSTITUTES
🔁 | M Remi Moses | 🏴 | (RB Mike Duxbury | 🏴 |)

🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

None
UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

None
Player Positions:
GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half
M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward
Match Symbols:
⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution
🟨 | Booking
🟥 | Sending off
🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
MATCHDAY SQUAD BIOGRAPHIES
STARTING XI
SUBSTITUTES
Player | 🕒 | 🔁 | ⚽ | 🔥 | 🟩 | 🟨 | 🟥 | 🥅 | ⛔ | Yellow | Red |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
M Darren Bradley | 🏴 | | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
UNUSED
Player | 🇺 |
---|---|
Games 🕒, Starts ✅, Substitute 🔁, Goals ⚽, Assists 🔥, Won 🟩, Drew 🟨, Lost 🟥, Conceded 🥅, Clean Sheets ⛔, Unused Substitute 🇺
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 11/11
Squad:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 12/12
SQUAD STATS

1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 8/11
Squad:
Home Nation 🏴 🏴 🏴 🇬🇧 : 9/12
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
MATCHDAY SQUAD

MATCHDAY SQUAD

🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford
UNAVAILABLE

Not recorded
UNAVAILABLE

Not Recorded
LEAGUE TABLE


MATCHDAY PROGRAMME



🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford


MATCH QUOTES
🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford


MATCH REPORTS
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🟥 17 Aug 1985, Villa 0-4 United, Old Trafford

