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Game #4185

Aston Villa

Tuesday, 19 November 1991

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Lost

2nd Round

Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟥

Zenith Data Systems 2nd Round

Nottingham Forest

Villa Park

Attendance: 7,858

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

Aston Villa

0-2

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Nottingham Forest

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Assist(s) | None

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

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MATCH TIMELINE

Tuesday, 19 November 1991

🟢 | 1’ Debut, Neil Cox
🥅 | 35’ Goal, 0-1, (Nottingham Forest), Stuart Pearce
🕒 | HT Aston Villa 0-1 Nottingham Forest
🥅 | 54’ Goal, 0-2, (Nottingham Forest), Ian Woan
🔁 | 57’ Sub off, Ian Olney, Sub on, Stefan Beinlich 🟢
🔁 | 81’ Sub off, Dariusz Kubicki, Sub on, Martin Carruthers 🟢
🕒 | FT Aston Villa 0-2 Nottingham Forest

Match Statistics

Not recorded

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

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ON THIS DAY

Tuesday, 19 November 1991

  • Villa lose out in the second round of the Zenith Data to Forest but no-one much cares as Villa play in front of what will be their lowest crowd for the next thirty years and counting.

  • Right back Neil Cox, 20, makes his debut in a Villa shirt after joining from Scunthorpe United in February 1992 for a fee of £400,000 to become the 681st player to play for Villa in first team League or Cup football.

  • Midfielder Stefan Beinlich, 20, makes his debut in a Villa shirt after joining from PFV Bergmann-Borsig in October 1991 for a fee of £100,000 to become the 682nd player to play for Villa in first team League or Cup football.

  • Centre Forward Martin Carruthers, 19, makes his debut in a Villa shirt after coming through the youth ranks to become the 683rd player to play for Villa in first team League or Cup football.

  • Ian Olney makes his 100th appearance in a Villa shirt (74 Starts) to make it W44 D22 L34, 20 Goals and 6 Assists at a goal involvement per game rate of one for every 3.85 games he has played so far in his Villa career.

  • Mark Blake makes his 25th appearance in a Villa shirt (20 Starts) to make it W13 D5 L7, 1 Goal and 3 Assists so far in his Villa career.

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

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DEBUT APPEARANCES

🟢 RB Neil Cox | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #681 | £495,000 signing from Scunthorpe
🟢 M Stefan Beinlich | 🇩🇪 | #682 | £100,000 from PFV Bergmann-Borsig
🟢 F Martin Carruthers | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | #683 | Youth Team promotion

FINAL APPEARANCES

None

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Aston Villa

European Cup / Champions League: 🏆
League Champions: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1981-82

Nottingham Forest

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European Cup / Champions League: 🏆🏆
League Champions: 🏆
FA Cup Winners: 🏆🏆
League Cup Winners: 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Last Trophy: 1989-90

Aston Villa

Nottingham Forest

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FIXTURE HISTORY

Villa v

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Nottingham Forest

Previous 5 vs. Forest: 🟩 🟩 🟨 🟨 🟩

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

FIXTURE DETAILS

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Season | 1991-92 |
Matchday | #20 |
Manager Game | #20 |
Tuesday, 19 November 1991

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🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

MATCH SUMMARY

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Manager: Ron Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Liverpool, 1991-1994
Referee: Gerald Ashby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Worcester, 1985–1998
Kick off: 7.45pm
HT Score: 🟥 0-1
FT Result: 🟥 Lost
FT Score: 🟥 0-2
Last 5: 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟥

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MANAGERIAL RECORD

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Ron Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1991-1994

GAMES | WINS | DRAWS | LOSSES | POINTS PER GAME

🕒 20 | 🟩 | 9 🟨 | 5 🟥 6 | 1.60

Villa Career Form:

Top 6

ALL THE MATCHES LED BY:

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Ron Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1991-1994

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

MATCH OFFICIALS

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Referee: Gerald Ashby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | Worcester, 1985–1998
Matches Officiated: 2
🟩 : 1
🟨 : 0
🟥 : 1
🆘 : 0
Previous 5: 🟩
Last Match: 🟩 8 September 1990, Villa 2-1 Coventry, Villa Park.
Cards: 🟨

ALL THE MATCHES REFEREED BY:

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CARDS

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None

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🟨 Stuart Pearce

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

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TEAM NEWS

TEAM STATS

Bryan Small, Kent Nielsen, Dalian Atkinson and Neil Cox replace Steve Staunton, Paul McGrath, Cyrille Regis and Dwight Yorke.

Starting XI Average Age
| 25.46 |

Oldest Player |
GK Les Sealey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 34.16 |

Youngest Player |
LB Bryan Small | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 20.02 |

Referee
Manager

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

MANAGER

Ron Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 1991-1994

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Aston Villa

GK Les Sealey | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Bryan Small | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Shaun Teale | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Kent Nielsen | 🇩🇰 |
RB Dariusz Kubicki | 🇵🇱 | 🔁 |
RB Neil Cox | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🟢 |
M Mark Blake | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Kevin Richardson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
W Tony Daley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Dalian Atkinson | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CF Ian Olney | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🔁 |

MANAGER

Brian Clough | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

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Nottingham Forest

GK Mark Crossley | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 |
RB Gary Charles | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Des Walker | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
CB Steve Chettle | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
LB Stuart Pearce | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | 🟨 |
M Roy Keane | 🇮🇪 | 🔁 |
M Gary Crosby | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |
M Scot Gemmill | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
M Ian Woan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | ⚽ | 🔁 |
CF Lee Glover | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 |
CF Teddy Sheringham | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |

Line Ups

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

SUBSTITUTES

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🔁 M Stefan Beinlich | 🇩🇪 | 🟢 | for CF Ian Olney | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 57’ |
🔁 CF Martin Carruthers | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | 🟢 | for RB Dariusz Kubicki | 🇵🇱 | 81’ |

SUBSTITUTES

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M Roy Keane | 🇮🇪 | (D Darren Wassall | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |)
M Ian Woan | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 | (M Nigel Clough | 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 |)

Substitutes

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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UNUSED SUBSTITUTES

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Player Positions:

GK : Goalkeeper
CB, D, B : Centre Back, Defender, Back
FB, LB, RB, WH : Full Back, Left Back, Right Back, Wing Back, Wing Half


M, CH, LH, RH : Midfielder, Centre Half, Left Half, Right Half
W, OL, OR : Winger, Outside Left, Outside Right
F, IF, IL, IR : Forward, Inside Forward, Inside Left, Inside Right, Second Striker, False 9
CF : Centre Forward

Match Symbols:

⚽ | Goal
🔥 | Assist
🔁 | Substitution

🟨 | Booking

🟥 | Sending off

🆘 | Poor refereeing performance
🟢 : Debut 🔴 : Final Game

Squad Bios

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 9/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 10/13

SQUAD STATS

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1st XI:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 10/11

Squad:
Home Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇬🇧 : 12/13

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

MATCHDAY SQUAD

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MATCHDAY SQUAD

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LEAGUE TABLE

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MATCHDAY PROGRAMME

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Tables & Programmes

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

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MATCH QUOTES

"What Villa desperately needed was the sort of control and composure which old heads Paul McGrath and Cyrille Regis would have provided."
Quotes

🟥 19 November 1991, Villa 0-2 Forest, Villa Park.

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MATCH REPORTS

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*Birmingham Evening Mail*
Wednesday, 20 November 1991

WHEN Ron Atkinson and Andy Gray look on almost impassively from the dug-out, it says everything about the importance of the occasion. Both gentlemen are noted for their touchline gesticulations, but they were clearly unmoved by Villa's failure to extend an unbeaten run to eight matches. Compared with the more pressing matter of challenging for First Division honours, elimination from the Zenith Data Systems Cup was of little consequence. It merely removed a potential interference with Villa's rapidly developing League campaign, although the manner of defeat surely raised a few doubts about their ability to sustain a serious challenge at the top of the table. Villa's reshuffled outfit were nearly always second best to a Forest side who have just re-discovered their best form, with the outcome rarely in doubt once Stuart Pearce had delivered one of his free-kick specials on 33 minutes. But while Atkinson barely showed any flicker of emotion when the unmarked lan Woan sealed Villa's fate in the 54th minute, he will have been disappointed on several counts. The long-awaited strike combination of Dalian Atkinson and lan Olney, for example, did nothing to suggest it will be productive, with Olney eventually withdrawn. Polish full-back Darius Kubicki never got to grips with Forest's incisive raids down the left flank, while there was once again ample evidence for Atkinson's need to strengthen his midfield. In fairness, though, this was hardly a match in which to pass judgement. What Villa desperately needed was the sort of control and composure which old heads Paul McGrath and Cyrille Regis would have provided. The duo, however, were rested in readiness for Sunday's clash against leaders Leeds. That will be the time to make a true assessment of Villa's capabilities.
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